The abuse of LS on my email account, please do not laugh too much.
LS To Me
So ya wanna lay all the blame on me, that says more abut you than it does about me, it shows that everyone on the forum needs to learn about self control etc.
Why exactly was I suspended for one month?
I didn't resort to personal attacks, others did, they should theoretically be banned too.
LS To Me
I'm going to explain a few things to you, quickly, and simply
*I am not homocidal.
*I am not suicidal.
*The flames on the board were completely unjustified and not started by me.
*I've been receiving threats from the members of the craccum forum and derogatory comments.
*Banning me was not the way to go about things. You should have done something before I had to get the police involved. Abuse (abuse is defined on www.dictionary.com as: To hurt or injure by maltreatment; ill-use. To assail with contemptuous, coarse, or insulting words; revile.Insulting or coarse language) on the internet is regarded under law as a crime and you have been assisting the crime breakers in committing their unlawful actions.
The Domestic Violence Act 1995 defines violence (an offence under this act) as: intimidation, harrassment, threats of physical, or psychological abuse. (http://www.legislation.govt.nz/browse_vw.asp?content-set=pal_statutes)
As a result of these actions, the defamation in the why Liz was banned thread (points 1, 2) and nothing being done about it (IE// warnings issued, other members banned, basically it being stopped) I have reported this abuse to the police as it has been unprovoked. I printed off a copy of that thread as evidence. The police are going to be investigating this crime.
It is a serious situation and all of this, the fights and the police involvement could have been avoided had the moderators of the craccum forum done something before it escalated to this stage.
I did not want this to happen, it was the last thing I wanted but you've all broken the law.
Yours sincerely
LS
LS to Me
You are more involved in the matter of defamation than Ant is, Ant posted taht privately, you posted it publicly and it IS outright lies.
Remove the thread NOW and allow me back for 5 minutes to see that it is gone.
After it is gone so will I be gone.
LS to Me
If you don't want the law to catch up with you then I suggest you allow me back for 5 minutes so that I can see that the defamatory post is gone. YOU were the one who posted it and YOU will receive the legal consequences. I have to see that it is gone.
Me To Liz
So can I still expect a call from the police?
Liz To Me
You have two options now Fez, either you allow me back and stop the abuse or if you are unable get another mod to do so coz its unprovoked or, the other option is that I continue with this police complaint.
Ant may have said that comment, but YOU posted it, you can be done for defamation and allowing a member to be discriminated against and abused.
Its up to you, if you want to have on your police record defemation then don't allow me back. If you want a clean record, you do allow me back coz it aint my fault.
LS to Me
either
allow me back without aggression or I carry through with the legal action
against you. I'm not joking, you are guilty of discrimination, abuse and
defamation. Ant said those things, but you publicly posted them, that
means you'll be in more trouble. If you want to keep your clean record you
let me back.
Me To Liz
Liz you agreed to these terms when you signed up to the
forum
"Please remember that we are not responsible for any messages posted.
We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or
usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of
any message."
You probably dont remember seeing them because you probably didnt read them.
Those "things" that Ant said have been taken down and you have seen
that.
Please leave me alone or I will be forced to take legal action also
LS to Me
allow me back on the forum! The rules also state clearly that people agree not to abuse other members of the board.
Me to Liz
all abusive posts about you are being deleted now.
LS to Me
that doesn't do anything, I was unfairly banned and I deserve to come back. Allow me to at least VIEW the forum, maybe not post, disallow my posting ability, what upsets me is that I can't even VIEW the forum.
Me To Liz
To see what? that we arent talking about you. Because
this is in fact
the craccum forum and not the liz show forum.
I assure no one is talking about you nor are they making threatening
posts, I am well aware of the consequences if they do and will delete
them as they come up.
I have also advised any talk or mention of your name will result in
warnings and suspensions.
You dont need to view the forum to see this you can trust me.
No one is threatening your life Liz, not me anyway and not any of my
members, I will keep an extra close eye on Ants posts though. (if he
does infact post again)
LS to Me
because i geuinely liked the forum and it was NOT my intentions for it to turn into me versus the world. I am telling the truth now. I want to be able to see the topics. Surely tahts not too much to ask for. I was unfairly banned, I received the blame for everyone else's actions. You know I stayed out of the flames as much as I could. It wasn't fair to ban me. What if I truly do come back under a false identity, just between you and me, no more than 3 posts a day. I will try as hard as I can this time to keep it a secret who I am. Please allow me back, this isn't fair and you know it isn't fair.
LS to Me (apparently being an Aucklad University student gives her the right to view the forum)
how are people supposed to know if they want to join the forum if they can't view it before hand? You are actually killing the chances of other members signing up. Allow people to view the forum without signing up. And allow me back. I was unfairly banned and I won't let this go and I am holding you personally responsible for allowing the derogatory comments to go ahead. It says in the rules that no-one should be abused, yet it continued and you even incited it today. What sort of example is that for a moderator to be doing. Allow me back onto this forum. i am an auckland university student and that gives me right to be on this forum.
LS to Me (still going with the “charges” thing)
if you do allow me back, i drop the charges, if you don't allow me back I go through with the charges. It really is simple. I just wnat to be able to view the topics and what people are saying, why the fuck is that so hard for you to allow? I have done nothing wrong here, i am not saying you did but under the rules they should have been banned, I shouldn't have. What about if I can view the forum and then in a week's time I'm allowed back, under a false identity, the chances are my name truly will be different by then. Can I at least view the forum please?
LS to Me (starting to loose the handle)
fine, legal action goes ahead because of your unwillingness to sort this out without legal intervention. My ban was not justified and you ahve sat by and watched me get abused. Good luck, see you in court for defamation, abuse and discrimination.
LS to Me (blah blah blah)
seriously, unblock my fuckin IP, this ban is not justified and you know that I am the one in the right and the others are in the wrong, yet they are getting away with it and you are allowing it.
How the fuck is the forum supposed to get new members when people can't view it. Unblock my IP.
You know what was good about the forum is that up until toby joined and started the first set of flames, it was actually a serious forum and there would good debates going on.
How the fuck can you debate with someone who has the exact same views, there is no fuckin point. Allow me back, I mean it.
If you do the legal action will be retracted, otherwise it goes ahead. You have contributed directly by flaming me, rather than dealing with the offending members.
LS to Me (Oh noes! I lose members?!)
either alow me back onto the forum or I will ensure that the forum loses members and nobody posts on it. Remember, its because of me that the last 5 members joined the forum, thats quite significant., 5% join because of me, you don't realise what the forum has lost in banning me. I hope you're happy, soon there will be no forum. I've devised a plan to ensure the forum gets boycotted. The plan is not yet in action but should you not unban me and allow me back, I iwll follow through. I'm not kidding, LS doesn't joke, LS is always serious, especially when she's in the right. I'm gonna hve fun making your life hell, you punished me for being a victim, now its your turn to be punised. No more forum if I have anything to do with it.
Me to LS
Cool you do that, and heres youre own forum to get members
too.
http://s10.invisionfree.com/Craccum/index.php
www.craccum.tk (it
takes a while for the .tk registry to kick in, so
be patient with that)
I feel Im being overly nice here for doing this.
I never personally flamed you. (now whose lying?)
I honestly couldnt care less if you started a buoycott on my forum.
"I'm gonna hve fun making your life hell"
If Im not mistaken that sounds like a threat, hmm I think Ill be
holding onto that one.
So yeah feel free to advertise your'e forum in craccum in the
classifieds and in your'e letters.
If you need help setting it up I can do that, but only if you ask
extra nicely and am patient I dont have a whole lot of time right now.
Oh yeah those last 5 members if Im not mistaken, were you.
LS to Me (apparently I was being patronising in offering help)
that is really patronising to do that, its not nice to set up a forum for me. What if it turns out that the forum gts loads of members as a result of my boycott ie// people know about it so they join because all news is good news. If of course this is the result then theoretically you would have to let me bck because I would have done the board a huge favour.
As I said, my ban was unjustified, it is not doing me a favour either.
No, 5 members who came to the forum because of me were shiz law for starters, mockingbird, joshua zahn, dragonorchid.
It is nto fair to ban someone who was innocent. Allow me back, even under a false identity.
I have more ofa right to be on the craccum forum than mockingbird, joshua zahn and simon ishtar (yes, another person from the rock factory board, wh wouldn't know about it hd nit not been for me), none o them are university students.
Allow me back.
LS to Me
and who was it who advertised the forum in craccu, thomas morrisson never knew before that, sarey joined because i advertised. So that means I got the forum 8 members, plus cheese monkey who is a friend that is 9 members. None of the other members advertised it as much as me,
And yet I got banned, the one who has done the forum a favour, you have 9 members because of me, that is just above 10% and yet you have still banned me. that is HIGHLY unfair. I incited good discussion so seriously, allow me back and delete my forum. I don't want something that was done to be condescending and patronising.
LS to Me
how are
flamers ever supposed to learn from it, and stop doing it if they are never
punished. You have been very bias to your friends, that isn't a behaviour
a moderator should have.
LS to Me (completely off the handle now)
seriously
allow me back, you've allowed the abuse and I won't let it go. The members
of the board need to be punished and learn that flaming is wrong. I'm the
innocent victim in all of this and to blame me is fuckin ridiculous.
LS to Me (calling me bias probably isn’t going to help your case)
I did more for the craccum forum than any of the members who were flaming me and therefore I should be allowed back.
I have already said several times that I did not flame people, I did not start troll threads, I did not ruin discussions, and not once did I try to get anyone banned because of a personal dislike.
You have been incredibly bias in your decision, taking it to the polls yesturday was actually really pathetic. YOu have allowed people to get flamed and victimised and then done nothing to resolve it, banning me doesn't solve the problem. Allowing me back does.
Maybe people will eventually get over their hate if I post less, but to ban me is really pathetic.
There is a damn good chance that my boycott will actually get the board more
members within the next two weeks, if it does then you owe it to me, who has
helped the forum to let me back.
LS to Me (now Im being discriminatory towards Arts students)
Its actually a really stupid thing to not allow people to view the forum before registering and it is also stupid to prevent people from viewing it without signing up.
If I get your board 100 new members this week, cut of date 3pm next Monday you allow me back? In fact I'll get more than 100, I'll get 200.
My boycott is going to get people to sign up because people like conflict.
I started several threads, you are being very bias. There were 80 members who did not even vote in the poll proving that the majority of the people on the forum do not care either way.
People should be allowed to view it without signing in, how else will they know if they want to sign in or not.
The ofrum doesn't have many arts students, you are being very discriminatory. How is there supposed to be variety in discussion on the board if it is only engineers, cience and commerce students. Arts students should have their say too.
You wouldn't ban someone from a shop simply because you didn't like them, so the same applies for an internet forum.
Banning the victim in all of this is very wrong, you have allowed the perpertrators to get away with their actions.
Me to LS (way past sick of her)
Im not being patronising, think of the possiblities.
You have youre own forum, you can really do well with that.
Ok so you got me 10 members, theyre not actually posting but it doesnt
really matter.
With youre own forum you can have everything you wanted, you already
proved you have no trouble getting members so go ahead and do it.
The poll was because I was sick to death of youre crap, you broke MANY
rules Liz, you WERE deserving of a ban. It was stated at the
beginning of the poll that you broke your'e own rules with a quote
from you saying you could be banned if you exceeded 5 posts a day and
proof that you did in fact make 10 posts in your first day back. It
was also stated that admin's and moderators can ban a member at their
own discretion. Quite rightly I should have just banned you without
the poll but I wanted to let the members decide. There was an
overwhelming majority in favour of your'e banning liz. 15-2. As
admin I had no choice, the people had spoken, they did not want you
there. You say you were abused. Then why do you want to come back
and be abused more?
You have your'e own forum now, Ill even let my members know about it
if they are keen to discuss with you anything you like and if they
abuse you, you can delete their posts and them at will.
Please stop emailing me in this way or I will be forced to seek a
restraining order
Me to LS
"If I get your board 100 new members
this week, cut of date 3pm next
Monday you allow me back? "
No.
LS to Me
You indicated with your post that me posting more than 5 times a day was going to be alright, had I known it wasn't, then I wouldn't have posted 10 posts in that day.
Many forums ban the flamers, I wasn't a flamer.
I reckon the abuse will die down.
Its obvious you aren't going to allow me back at this point in time, how about a suspension for one week or two weeks and then by that time I can come back under a false identity?
LS to Me (has she finally given in?)
Alright, how do I admin the forum? How do I set up various forums? I have no idea how to do so.
Me to LS
see the bit that says "admin" go to that
then theres a side bar with a whole bunch of options, you go down that
and select "Forum Control"
and under that select "New Catergory" these are the catergories
for
your forum, you can make a "general" one a "news" one etc.
then under that is "new forum" there are the parts of the catergories,
eg under the "news" catergory you can add "world news" and
"local
news" and "campus news"
each forum has a permission mask, youll see that down the bottom when
you make a new one, that allows you to make "read" "reply"
"start" and
"upload" premissions for your members depending on the type of member
they are whether they are a moderator or a simple member, or a guest.
I think thats all you need to know for now, plus it would be great if
you taught yourself, just have a play with them you should be able to
figure it out.
I need to get back to my assignment now.
--after this I set up a filter to send any emails of hers straight to my trash but perhaps 3 days after I find one in there—
LS to Me
the legal action was about the post that said i was homocidal. do you realise how damaging that is? ONE last chance and i drop the legal stuff. thats against ant not you. i receiving hate mail and legal action is the only way for it to stop. people are telling me to die etc. thats why i went to the police.
complaints againt you are dropped. i never mentioned your name to the police. i mentioned ants.
now can you please tell this to the moderators.
tell me, have you ever had so much abuse?
LS to Me
it was not against the board either, there were threatening comments on the board from peoplewho know the area i live in, know i go to u of a and who could follow through.
explain this too.
LS to Me
Remove ALL posts making reference to me on the Craccum forum. You ahve said on the forum not to discuss me, and yet you are.